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kw

I'm not opposed to increasing leave but I do want to point out that increasing paid leave (or even unpaid leave) increases costs, which, in the case of the federal government (or any government), means higher taxes or larger deficits (which will be passed on to our children to manage).

The reason I point this out, isn't to discourage increasing leave but to make sure everyone acknowledge the consequences of pushing for increased leave or any other benefit.

We seem to be living in a society that increasingly eshews taxes, even when they cover necessary services. Citizens want better education, better roads, better benefits & pay (all good things and hard to argue with) but no one wants to pay for them. These things aren't free and if we advocate for them, we must be willing to pay the taxes to provide them.

I am, are you?

LTF

KW: It is an interesting point you make since the paid leave for federal employees is not proposed as an employee-paid payroll tax like the state laws have been - unless I'm missing something, so it would cost taxpayers more, while the state-level leave (as proposed in OR in 2007) would cost employees more (same people, more of less, but a more direct link between employees paying in and benefitting).

I wonder if fed employees could simply be rolled into the larger bill for national paid leave that has recently been introduced, or does the fed workforce have to be treated separately? Or, better to do something for fed employees separately since who knows what'll happen to the broader bill? Seems the fed system should set a positive example. I, too, am willing to pay, but would prefer an employee cost (yes, might feel like a tax) to a fed income tax-funded gov budget line item. Still learning how the proposed fed plan is structured. Good info on Rep Carolyn Maloney's web site (she introduced the bill): http://maloney.house.gov/index.php?option=com_issues&task=view_issue&issue=263&Itemid=35

kw

"I wonder if fed employees could simply be rolled into the larger bill for national paid leave that has recently been introduced, or does the fed workforce have to be treated separately?"

I'm guessing they would need to be treated differently, although not necessarily. Sometimes it's hard to know with government but I go by the understanding that most governments do not work together because very few (I only know of one) leaders are willing to give up any of their power even if it's to the benefit of the taxpayers and the electorate at large.

Another thing to consider, is that even if a payroll tax was instituted (and I don't understand how that works exactly, to be honest), the government would still be liable for certain costs. The payroll tax might cover a portion (likely not all, similar to healthcare) of wages during that time for the person on leave but I doubt they would cover the temporary replacement costs for that employee. That temporary replacement would likely need to be trained and have a learning curve, all of which costs money in the long run -- in addition to actually paying the temp's wages.

Additionally, take into account the strong collective bargaining that public employees benefit from, what starts out as a payroll tax may not end up that way and once the benefit is established, it is virtually impossible to take away.

However it is done, ultimately, IMO, we'll see additional costs to the taxpayer.

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